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Liste des articles à finir ou à développer :
- Barenziah
- Rimmen
Dragonstar- Silvenar
DirenniPrimeterre- Histoire de Val Boisé
Réviser le calendrier, que des vieux trucs de l'époque Daggerfall.
Songer à créer :
Énantiomorphe
Les Anciens Contes des Dwemers
Montagnes Velothi
Lac Canulus
Janus Hassildor
Hasphat Antabolis
Tour d'Orichalque
Ryain Direnni
Dinieras-Ves
Corda
Port Noir
Vindisi
Keirgo
Naenra Waerr
Sève-verte
Bataille de Moesring
Ayléides Barsaebic
Montagnes Vélothi
Général Duvais
Jills
Homalayan
Os de la Terre
Sard
Hrothgar (la ville)
CHIM
Mantiarco
Macalla
Khenarti
Tholer Saryoni
Jsashe
Shalidor
Eshita
Aurbis
Muatra
Hrothmund
Ministère de la Vérité
Alessia & Marius Caro
Ordre de Diagna (& Ordre ansei de)
Ansei
Valenvaryon
Cathnoquey
Hrothmund
Thian
Bal Ur
Université Arcanes
Tel Naga
Prêtres dissidents
Trans-niben
Edit des guildes
Carlovac Townway
Loreth
Svenja Chanteneige
Effort psijique
Ahnurr
Nenalata
Llesw'er
Fadomaï
Wamasu
Ynesla
Apogryphe
Sanctuaire d'Azura
Ichidag
Gilvas Barelo
Miscarcand
Grand sanctuaire
Cap Brisé
Sanctuaire du Sanctus
Godhead theory
The Mad God-Head Theory A Reflection on Elder Scrolls Metaphysics
I don’t suffer from insanity…
Let us begin with Sithis, as that is where things began. Before Sithis there was nothing, though some have names and stories for that nothing. In Sithis thoughts came to be. And in Sithis these thoughts were finished before they could materialize. This is the way things were supposed to be. Sithis is the state of a healthy mind. When our ideas become solid and start having ideas of their own: one becomes many and is lost amongst itself.
An ailment came to this healthy mind, though the nature of this ailment is unknown it is not so hard to speculate. The two ingredients for Sithis were Anu and Padomay, Stasis and Change, Order and Chaos. If the balance between these two were disrupted, say more Anu than Padomay, ideas would form and not be “consumed” quite as quickly. “Mentally unbalanced”.
So, some ideas got stuck, itches were left unscratched in a manner of speaking. These were the first of the et’ada, the “original spirits“, and the beginning of an unparalleled case of dementia. These first et’ada, among whom purportedly was Akatosh the dragon god of time, helped other ideas gain form and shape. Each passing moment, or cycle, Akatosh “saved” more. The world they knew is lost to us. One could guess that at this point there was only a growing case of multiple personality disorder and that they were all still familiar with reality. This, though, was only the beginning.
Eventually, presumably as the health of this mind worsened, the wash of Anu and Padomay began to give way entirely. The two parts became polarized in what is now known as Magicka and “Void“. In a twisted sense, bi-polar. The et’ada reflected this in their “alignments”.
It is around this time that the mind, naturally, tries to heal itself. Lorkhan, the “trickster”, is born. He approaches the et’ada with a plan to create a world of their own (most likely as a contrast to reality). They would shape it and rule it how they pleased, if at great sacrifice to themselves. Lorkhan’s intentions were of course otherwise, however his exact plan and whether or not he achieved what he set out to do is up for debate.
Most of the et’ada agreed to this and so they set to work creating all kinds of barriers to hold their fantasy world intact and keep reality at bay. Only too late for most of them was it realized that through their sacrifice they would cease to be independent beings. They would not rule in their fantasy world, they would become part of it; no longer capable of affecting the “Godhead”.
All of the member-creators of this fantasy world, the Mundus, would come to be known as the Aedra. Those select few who had refused Lorkhan’s pact, and their eventual minions (arguably their own dementia), would come to be known as the Daedra.
Ah, the Daedra. Those few who were wise enough, paranoid enough, or just plain lucky enough to avoid Lorkhan’s trap. They looked at what the Godhead had done, he had created a fantasy world within himself, though in a way unwittingly and at the mercy of his own insanity. They decided to imitate this. They created realms inside of themselves, populated by minions which consisted of themselves (again, I believe this is them going through the same insanity of the Godhead, each of their minions is an aspect of their own split-personality). These were the realms of Oblivion.
A few of the Aedra did manage to escape their prison/fantasy world, Magnus being the chief amongst them. They are said to have gone to Aetherius, the origin of magicka, Oblivion’s counterpart. The stars are the holes through which they escaped. Why the Mundus has not heard of them since is open to debate. One could argue (one being me) that the stars are bits of reality shining through onto what would be the graveyard plane of Mundus, but that’s another proposal to be made at another time.
Despite these, relatively few, et’ada who escaped Lorkhan’s plan (the stars and Daedra) it would have been a stunning success. He had trapped the vast majority of fractured personalities and they would all eventually die. However, something happened, as somethings often do. It is unclear whether the remaining (and now very pissed off) Aedra sidetracked the plan, or if Lorkhan became infatuated with his individuality and thus tried to stop the project himself.
All of the et’ada trapped on Mundus did eventually die, or rather ceased to be conscious (perhaps with the exceptions of Lorkhan and Trinimac who are survived in Sheogorath and Malacath respectively). However, some of them left aspects of themselves, the Ehlnofey who’s descendents would number the “mortal” races.
Yes, reader, Akatosh is long since dead. Of course the mortal races, being pieces of pieces of a fractured mind do have a conduit by which they control their world. Their beliefs affect, to an extent, the Godhead’s beliefs. Mind over matter, or matter of mind, as it were. And so their beliefs about the now dead Aedra can be projected into the world around them.
Let’s recap. GH (Godhead) went insane. His many personalities derailed his consciousness almost entirely. In response, Lorkhan is born. Lorkhan tricks most of the fractured personalities to follow him (like the pied-piper) into their own private world completely separate from reality, where he was to then let them all rot and die for the sake of GH’s sanity (presumably). Those who did not follow Lorhkan, the Daedra, became insane and imitated the cycle, spawning many smaller personalities of their own in the realms of Oblivion. Those who escaped Lorkhan’s plan were never heard from again. After Lorkhan’s “failure” Mundus became somewhat similar to the original Sithis, “mortals” coming and going. Thus, the Aedra were, for the most part, sane. That doesn’t help GH’s sanity any, though, as it is now even more fractured than before.
That brings us up to speed and is the current state of things. Of course it cannot remain this way forever. Nordic legends imply that Lorkhan had an accomplice in his plan (undermining one system to fix another). The esteemed Mehrunes Dagon. This is easy for me to believe in that his realm, destruction, would be vital for the curing of the GH. If all of the fractured personalities were killed off things could start really healing. Of course Dagon is himself insane, which kind of puts a damper on things. He neurotically destroys, unaware of why anymore. So the mission is lost.
The GH will continue to try and cure itself, fighting against it’s own insanity. It will try to reunite all of it’s fractured personalities or, barring that, get rid of them. That is what Chim is, the realization of not being the individual you thought you were but still existing. “You” cease to exist, but return to the GH, and so you really only begin to “exist” in reality. That is the final note of the Mundus, and the realms beyond. The returning to Sithis, mental health, and reality. Whether that’s a good thing probably depends on who you ask.
Or perhaps the many layers of insanity will continue to quash each other’s attempts at a cure. The Mundus, with it’s keepers dead, will continue on and on until finally the GH’s divine flare expires. The returning to that nothing of before, for which some have names and stories for.
Additions:
The Sithis Shaped Hole
“Sheogorath (The Mad God): The fearful obeisance of Sheogorath is widespread, and is found in most Tamrielic quarters. Contemporary sources indicate that his roots are in Aldmeri creation stories; therein, he is 'born' when Lorkhan's divine spark is removed. One crucial myth calls him the 'Sithis-shaped hole' of the world.” - Varieties of Faith in the Empire
It is possible that Trinimac ripped out Lorkhan’s heart, as some legends say, and at this point perhaps Sheogorath was born. That doesn’t need much explaining, though, and is kind of dull. I have another theory:
Lorkhan was created to restore Sithis; to restore sanity. This requires all of the fractured-personalities to let go and achieve Chim. To lose their individuality and return to the whole. Many if not most of the spirits (et’ada, mortal, or otherwise) are not going to be crazy [excuse the pun] about that. Lorkhan was no exception. Utterly afraid to lose his individuality, his personality, he became something different. What he became was Sheogorath, the god of madness -- insanity.
This irony was all that was left for the personality born to restore sanity; madness was all that was left. What is the significance of his heart being left? It gets mighty figurative here, but someone’s “heart” is their essence. His essence, his purpose, was sanity. The only way he could reasonably hold onto his individuality was to lose that essence and become insane. His heart was “torn out“. Possibly with the voluntary aid of Trinimac, possibly not.
Sheogorath is the “Sithis shaped hole” -- the absence of Sithis -- the absence of sanity -- madness. I believe this phrase confirms that Sithis represents sanity.
thanks: Carrickfergus
Important Quotes:
“Pretty soon the spirits on the skin-ball started to die, because they were very far from the real world of Satakal.” - "Satakal the Worldskin", Yokudan Creation Myth, Monomyth
[Here we have reference to a “real world” which the et’ada needed, lest they die. I’m pretty sure “Satakal” is in reference to Sithis. Why are the mortal races mortal, afterall? Can an idea which has no connection or correlation with reality last for long, even in a deranged mind?]
“One of these, Lorkhan, was more of a limit than a nature, so he could never last long anywhere.” - “The Heart of the World”, Altmeri Creation Myth, Monomyth
[What is sanity but a rational limit on what is considered possible? How long could it last when surrounded by insanity and impossibility?]
“So Sithis begat Lorkhan and sent him to destroy the universe.” - Sithis
“What is the Tower’s secret? How to permanently exist beyond duplexity, antithesis, or trouble. This is not an easy concept, I know. Imagine being able to feel with all of your senses the relentless alien terror that is God and your place in it, which is everywhere and therefore nowhere, and realizing that it means the total dissolution of your individuality into boundless being. Imagine that and then still being able to say “I”. The “I” is the Tower.” - Vehk’s Teachings
“It is the existence of the True Self within the Universal Self…” - Vehk’s Teachings
Godhead theory, CHIM et D5A
Dans la Mad God-Head Theory, le Godhead, la divinité unique, souffre de troubles de la personnalité; ces personnalités multiples deviennent les et'ada et Lorkhan apparaît comme symptôme de la maladie; quand Lorkhan est pulvérisé (anglais sundered, terme central dans la terminologie ES), Sheogorath apparaît à son tour, et la folie domine le monde (Dagon est fou lui aussi), ce qui fait échouer les tentatives de guérison mentale (qui serait en fait un retour à Sithis). Dans ce schéma, le CHIM est bien le retour effectif au Godhead, c'est à dire la guérison de la maladie mentale, par la prise de conscience de l'I, du monde, et de la grande unité qui transcende tout cela (sur la définition de CHIM, cf Vekh's teachings)
(bien sûr, on peut donner à des théories similaires sur la restauration de l'unité initiale un tour moins médical, par exemple en considérant les tentatives ayléides et dwemers d'anti-création)
D'une certaine façon, la D5A reproduit ce schéma. La magie souveraine a été pulvérisée en minuscules particules, chaotiques, incomplètes, contradictoires (les sorts, les écoles, les effets de sorts), et la D5A est un processus de restauration de la magicka et ses trames vers l'unité à travers une prise de conscience personnelle, qui étend le moi au-delà de lui même, puisqu'il parvient à se fondre dans l'ombre, la terre, l'eau et l'air (sans parler des problèmes d'ego)
(26 mars 2009)
Godhead & commentaire sur Et'Ada, Eight Aedra, Eat the Dreamer
To understand the nature of the dream, one must understand that everything is Akatosh. Akatosh, in the elven myths, is the soul of the universe Anuiel, which in turn is the soul of the cosmic force of Anu. Similarly, Lorkhan, judging by Vehk's teachings, is the soul of Sithis and thus the Soul of Padomay. Now, consult the text "Et'Ada, Eight Aedra, Eat the Dreamer".
The Aedroth Aka, who goes by so many names as to perhaps already suggest what I'm about to commit to memospore, is completely insane. His mind broke when his "perch from Eternity allowed the day" and we of all the Aurbis live on through its fragments, ensnared in the temporal writings and erasures of the acausal whim that he begat by saying "I AM". In the aetheric thunder of self-applause that followed (nay, rippled until convention, that is, amnesia), is it any wonder that the Time God would hate the same-twin on the other end of the aurbrilical cord, the Space God? That any Creation would become so utterly dangerous because of that singular fear of a singular word's addition: "I AM NOT"?
Akatosh says I AM. Lorkhan says I AM NOT. They are connected twins, part of the Rebel/King duality. Akatosh's mind broke, and the Aurbis is the fragments, which with Akatosh being everything fits in with the Godhead.
That all the Interplay is one flea of assertion on a wolf of naught, and that every experience (that is, everything) born from that primal wail would cascade unto the echo-need of hologram, each slice the same except for scale, and all the magic that would need to spring forth just to hold it together at living, divine cross-purpose, support struts made from the need to exist (axial, along its two-headed fighting rays, each refusing their origin point, that is, Tower), terrestons versus chronocules, and in the end (an end that ever refuses to hold) it all becomes a lobotomized (for what is not lobal if not the dracochoreography made flesh?), reptilian (coiled), and massive map-god (holding a compass, holding a timepiece), drooling (the water from which we dragged ourselves out of to say, mirror-like, autochthonic, automatic, "WE ARE, TOO") on his countless knees, dementia given dimension, dimension dementia...
The flea of assertion is Akatosh. The wolf of naught is Lorkhan. Akatosh states "This is true". Lorkhan states "Nothing is true." The next sentences describe the essential conflict between the IS/ISN'T, and describes a mindless insane beast, with traits of both gods. Judging by how it says "in the end", this beast is the result of the conflict.
As Lorkhan and Akatosh are fragments of Anu/Padomay, Anu is also insane. And as we all know, the dreaming Godhead is everything.
The Godhead is a being who is completely torn apart by the conflict. He hallucinates, and in his madness he has developed two personalities, the insane Anu/Anuiel/Akatosh who insists that reality is true, and Padomay/Sithis/Lorkhan who insists reality is false. As such, he can never find the truth. No wonder Lorkhan, a being of AM NOT, would try to create Nirn to help people attain CHIM, and thus see through the lies.The Loveletter describes a god of love as if it was an ideal state that has yet to be attained. As well, Eat the Dreamer's author appears to be in despair about reality. Note how it mentions that the fear of a singular words addition, "I AM NOT", makes creation dangerous. Zero-summing is succumbing to terror and denial, denying your own existence and thus ending it. The Godhead> is a being of madness and torment, who is afraid of the possibility of non-existence which Padomay represents, and thus constantly denies it. The true goal of reality is to get theGodhead to let go of his fears, to notbe in perpetual conflict with himself but to love himself. To realize that nothing but he exists, but that it isn't such a nightmare. To know his delusions are lies but to love the lies anyway, like an author loves his stories despite knowing they are fiction. The Loveletter mentions hallucinations becoming lucid in his eyes. As he knows reality is but a dream, he can manipulate it. And when he has fallen into love, he can make existence paradise. The New Man becomes God becomes Amaranth. If the Godheadwas a mortal, his state of mind would result in instant zero-summing. But when the Godhead changes so that this hypothetical mortal incarnation achieved CHIM, he will become Amaranth.
Torment runs the world, but Love can change it.
Shithislorkhan, février 2012